Graeme I appreciate your article in discussing this matter in an open way. I think it is so important (and often very challenging) to always tell the truth about ourselves and our motives. I think sometimes the question is do we always have to tell the whole truth or just part of the truth (but still that part is true)

Also I appreciate the comments of your friend who is doing mission’s work in a Muslim country. His comments on 1 Samuel 16: 1-13 and also “Jesus himself often never responded to questions and at times kept his identity secret until just the right time.”

have picked three verses from the bible: -

1. I think 1 Corinthians 9:22 may have some relevance “To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some.” (New International Version)

2. And I think as per Romans 14 : 1-23, it can be a matter of conscience.

3. And Acts 4 v 15-20. (speaks for itself)

I will comment on why I think 1 and 2 above may have something to say on this subject: –

1. – 1 Corinthians 9:22 let me give an example: – I am aware that lots of Christians (individuals and groups) like to visit a certain country and hold gospel meetings or preach the gospel. When applying for a VISA (effectively permission to enter the country) those people who apply for permission to preach the gospel don’t get permission (believe me I have seen it on several occaisions). Those who apply for a tourist VISA do get permission. However when these peolpe go they are also tourists…. they look around a few places and do tourist things. If the Country Government allows tourists, OK (per 1 Corinthians 9:22) we will be tourists.

2. Romans 14 : 1-23 Some Christians may have a conscience to smuggle bibles into a Country, some may not. I am sure if the customs ask ‘what are you bringing into the country’ these smugglers will answer “clothes …etc..etc” and don’t say bibles.

- Nick

As to your last point. You are right. I have maybe become a bit defensive in the past few weeks.

However, I don’t that the EC is just about including everyone and hugs and kisses for all. We may be open to more conversations, and embracing of diversity. But that doesn’t mean we accept everything. We are as keen to find truth as anyone is.

COMMENT:

These are very good questions you are raising and are often discussed and worked through. As someone who is sent out this is always in our mind. Are you really telling the truth to people when they ask what you are doing in their country. I have found 1 Samuel 16: 1-13 helpful in this. Samuel was tasked by God to go and anoint David as King. However his life was at risk as Saul was still alive. He let God know this and so God gave him a good reason for going to the village of David and his family. He was to say that he was coming to offer a sacrifice. When he arrives in the village the elders ask what he is doing there. He tells them he has come to sacrifice and not tell them that he has come to anoint David as King. However he does go onto anoint David as king. So in our context we don’t work under cover but rather we say what we are doing. We have an NGO and we are actually doing what we say we are doing as with Samuel. However our primary goal is to announce the Kingdom of God to the folk around us. We live incarnational lives among the people looking for third places to spread the good news whether this be at coffee shops, playing dominoes, hanging out near the Mosque etc. As you know we also want to see what I would also call an emergent church or term that we use is an indigenous church. A church belonging to the people. A church that will not look like a western church but rather one that emerges from within the culture. I was sitting again in a pre fasting month meeting of our community where they were eating together, praying together and reciting the Quran together and again thinking that should these people come to faith this is what church would look like except that for all be follows of Jesus the Messiah, reciting and studying the gospels, taurat and psalms.

I must admit that having a mission sending organization that you are also affiliated with could be perceived as not telling the truth. What would it look like to be sent out by an NGO or something else? Is this necessary? Or do we need to understand what it means to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Telling the truth in different cultural context means different things. The whole idea of shame based verse guilt based cultures.

It is also interesting that there are examples of people hiding their faith and then God using it at just the right time for his purpose and glory. I think of Nicodemus (John 3:1-15, 7:45-52, 19:38-42) & Joseph of Arimathea (Mark 15:43, Luke 23: 50-54, John 19:38-42, Matthew 27:57-61). Jesus himself often never responded to questions and at times kept his identity secret until just the right time.

Your thoughts on doing good works is spreading the gospel and bringing the Kingdom of God is a debate that has been going on for years as one looks at liberal verse evangelical. I think whether we are evangelical, liberal, emergent, or whatever we need to keep in mind that both need to happen and need to happen with integrity. We need to be spreading the Kingdom of God and inviting people into this kingdom both through our lifestyle and our words. Of course in our Muslim context it is often hard to out do your neighbor in good works because that is what they live for. The more they do good works the more points they get and so opportunity to get to heaven. One needs to have dialogue in the midst of being a follower of Jesus, living an incarnational lifestyle which includes doing good works.

Just as an aside and if I may say so, interesting that you choose to make the distinction between EC and evangelicals. As I think emergent church and a new community of faith I think that creating boxes of varying camps of thought is not helpful. I thought we are trying to create a community that does not want to put people in a box but rather help to break down these walls. I liked Brian McLaren’s statement in his book where he calls himself an evangelical, Pentecostal, charismatic, liberal etc. I can’t remember the exact quote.